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2012/09/16 15:37:22 Subject: Vampire counts 1500 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Lone Crusader  Confident Halberdier | the vamp lord is mostly for the leadership with konrad, will think more into my characters 2 lvl1 necro when i hit 2400 switching the normal vamp to vamp lord w/summon creatures of night and maybe a magic items if points allow should i be using my gouls? otherwise i sub them in for zombie models how are the vargeists? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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2012/09/17 01:33:03 Subject: Vampire counts 1500 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Ghouls are an all or nothing unit imo, you either take a 40 strong horde or go home, anything less is too few to keep raising and too many points when they die (which they will because they are ghouls, they attract a lot of attention).
Vargheists are a glass cannon, 13 S5 attacks and 3 stomps will hurt a lot but 9 wounds, T4 and no save will not stand up to much. They are fragile and I wouldn't try running them as anything more than 3 and a unit champ but if you get them in the flank of something while grave guard go in the front it will die.
Fafnir wrote:
Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
Lone Crusader
Confident Halberdier
rough draft of my progression to 2400
Vamp Lord lvl2 book of arkahn summon creatures of the night heavy armor shield biting blade
Master Necromancer lv4 master of the dead black peripat
Wight King bsb enchanted shield 4+ward talisman
konrad
Necromancer lv1 cursed book
Necromancer lv1 staff of damnation or rod of flaming death
30 skeletons fc screaming banner
30 skeletons fc
20 zombies fc
4x5 direwolves
corpse cart unholy load stone
30 grave guard fc
vargulf
Konrad is iffy but fun imo ideally sending him towards anything with multiple wounds be it chariots pegasis knights terradon riders just so he can do more damage
vamp lord is mostly for the leadership to keep konrad under control and get them dire wolves beefed up turn 1 and 2 when i can unleash the hounds (thought a lvl4 vamp lord w/summon creatures of the night and 10 units of 5 dire wolves adding 5 wolves with every successful cast of nehek that he does, but i dont have enough wolves)
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2012/09/17 04:22:27
Subject: Vampire counts 1500
jonolikespie
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looks good, I would only use the biting blade if you are dead on the 600 lords limit and can only afford that.
I'd look for an extra 80 points for the banner of the burrows and great weapons on the grave guard (or at least on of the two).
Fafnir wrote:
Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
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